tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-848541039913019341.post6558039800788171489..comments2023-10-01T06:34:39.919-06:00Comments on Random Musings of a Tormented Mind: Pot..... Kettle.........KGouldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05537080163900313558noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-848541039913019341.post-26896018582638532852012-01-23T06:53:19.833-07:002012-01-23T06:53:19.833-07:00You don't have to convince me :) I grew up in ...You don't have to convince me :) I grew up in a christian household and have some beliefs but I do not relate my upbringing to govt ideas. I don't expect everyone else to believe the same as me and do not think it should be pushed on anyone. I get tired of hearing the religious reasons behind people voting for Romney Santorum and Gingrich in the US all the time. Talk of 'the bible belt' and 'the evangelical vote'. Drives me bonkers actually.KGouldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537080163900313558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-848541039913019341.post-83421212061617959362012-01-22T17:02:44.573-07:002012-01-22T17:02:44.573-07:00We exist. Ayn Rand was an Atheist. Objectivism i...We exist. Ayn Rand was an Atheist. Objectivism is our way and almost identical Libertarianism. We have a moral dialectic that cancels out the crazier idea's some Libertarians come up with. We value life and beauty from which most "libertarian" ideas can be derived.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162628029353058623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-848541039913019341.post-30415775114285313212012-01-22T08:32:52.061-07:002012-01-22T08:32:52.061-07:00ps an atheist AND a conservative? I thought that s...ps an atheist AND a conservative? I thought that simply was not possible. HAHA jk :)KGouldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537080163900313558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-848541039913019341.post-52962390552961471362012-01-22T08:32:15.455-07:002012-01-22T08:32:15.455-07:00lol I watched the group out of curiosity mainly. T...lol I watched the group out of curiosity mainly. This is not a group where it is liberal vs conservative, where I have hung out for years in various political and idealistic debates - it is conservative vs conservative! I find it sad, actually.<br /><br />I don't like newt or mitt at all and would rather that neither one of them got to be president, but Im not running around saying anyone who votes for them are totally out of their minds. I know they like Newt because he can be quite funny, has been involved in washington for a long time, and they think he can kick obama's tush. Mitt Romney people like his presence, the way he speaks, he is usually calm cool and collected, he is a state governor, etc. I know why people like those guys so I don't slam them down. I just secretly wish they would see that those guys will get eaten alive by obama. <br /><br />And I am well aware that ron paul could get eaten alive by him as well. He is not the greatest speaker, trips over his words, has to many ideas flying around in his head and they all seem to want to come out at the same time, and I SO wish he had better speaking abilities but he doesn't. That's the way it is. I like what he says about the huge massive govt body that is swallowing america and he backs that statement up with ways he wants to make govt smaller (Fed)..... Mitt and Newt say that as well. They say that govt is far too big -- but if you really listen to them, their plans for the future all include a whole whack of new ideas and plans that are brand new and will be conducted at the federal level and guess what that means? Growing govt yet again. DUH. They will have studies and committees and plans and overseers, and the list will go on - for EACH of the 'new' ideas they plan to set up (for example, the registration of illegal aliens using cards and machines that scan them and are tied to a main one in washington to verify their status - hey why don't they just tattoo them? that might be easier; or their health care plan ideas like where Newt talks of 'creating' a board for this and that). That's growing govt,not shrinking the monster that it has become! RP is the only one I have seen out of that bunch who actually seems to want to cut the spending and shrink the govt. there is no way he can complete it. The US is in serious dire circumstances, but he could perhaps at least try to make a model for them to follow in subsequent years.<br /><br />But anyway I got off on a tangent there. My point is, I do not like the other candidates, I understand why people vote for them, and I'm not going to say they are all looney basement dwelling crazies. They are fellow conservatives and we hope they get into place again down there because we live right next door and are having a lovely time dealing with Obama (NOT!) so we want someone in there who will help get the US back on track and that in turn strengthens the whole of North America. But I am watching something else entirely in that group on FB - I am watching so-called conservatives, and christians too, slam the RP supporters over and over and relentlessly. The group rules list says basically that - and I feel like I am watching lib vs conserv rather than conserv vs conserv/libertarian. It's mind boggling and disheartening. At this rate, no matter who the nominee is, they will not have a hope in hell of beating Obama this year.KGouldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537080163900313558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-848541039913019341.post-64823627630739589342012-01-22T03:49:39.287-07:002012-01-22T03:49:39.287-07:00heh. OK I believe you now.
Now I have to ask you...heh. OK I believe you now.<br /><br />Now I have to ask you why you hang around there? They clearly don't like Ron Paul. I know you don't understand them and you think that just by reasoning it out they will change. That isn't so.<br /><br />I'm an atheist and a conservative. I know a little something about arguments that just can't be won. You have to look past it and see all the things that you do agree on and talk about those. Build respect and if not agreement then an understanding at least. Its the only way forward.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162628029353058623noreply@blogger.com